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25-05-2022 03:23 AM
25-05-2022 03:23 AM
Chance To Participate In A Loneliness Survey
A lot of people on here often talk about how badly they are afflicted with loneliness, so I thought I would share this link for a loneliness survey I was notified about yesterday:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Loneliness-survey
It's being run by Lived Experiance Australia who are affiliated with SANE, so it's legit. I haven't had time to do the survey myself yet (I will), so I can't offer any insight as to it's contents yet.
My feeling has always been that nothing's ever going to get better with the system unless we, the suffering, speak out and tell the powers-that-be what's wrong and what fixes we need. So I think it's really important for these people to get a rich supply of frank input from people like us, so that (hopefully) it will shape future official reports and government policy into the assistance we really need.
I know that talking about our woes can be punishing and exhausting, and can often feel pointless. But IMHO, it's important. Maybe, even if it doesn't produce results for us, it may help build a better system for the next generation who confront the same woes as ourselves.
If you are lonely, and you feel you are up to writing about your plight, please considder contributing to this survey.
It closes on 1st July.
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25-05-2022 10:22 AM
25-05-2022 10:22 AM
Re: Chance To Participate In A Loneliness Survey
Thank you for sharing @chibam. I saw this survey yesterday and wondered whether it was something that should be shared with the Forums community so I'm glad you brought it to our attention 😊
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25-05-2022 03:25 PM
25-05-2022 03:25 PM
Re: Chance To Participate In A Loneliness Survey
Hi @chibam
thank you for sharing this. I've seen so many people I know with mental ill health who are lonely. They have families and friends who they've become 'too much' for. it's heartbreaking. Did I read somewhere that in the UK it is such a concern that they have a minister for loneliness? Don't quote me on that but I will look further into that.
hanami 💮
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25-05-2022 04:14 PM
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25-05-2022 08:47 PM - edited 25-05-2022 08:54 PM
25-05-2022 08:47 PM - edited 25-05-2022 08:54 PM
Re: Chance To Participate In A Loneliness Survey
@Rhye wrote:Oh yeah @hanami, right you are! Would like to hear your thoughts on this @chibam and anyone else reading along.
To be perfectly honest, @Rhye , as much as I believe having a loneliness minister is an essential step we need to take, I can see it all too easily becoming an empty gesture that accomplishes nothing, while giving the government the politically-valuable illusion of having taken action on this issue.
I've known about the existance of the British loneliness minister for some time, but I'm unaware of whether they've actually achieved anything. It's so easy for these sorts of things to become token gestures.
Edit: There goes my insufferable pessimism again. Pay it no heed.
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26-05-2022 09:17 AM
26-05-2022 09:17 AM
Re: Chance To Participate In A Loneliness Survey
Morning @chibam,
Such an interesting perspective, thank you for sharing. At first parse I took it as a positive move towards ending isolation, because till recent times I've not been aware of strategies to tackle loneliness beyond say church groups or local council initiatives for elderly folk. But perhaps that is too simplistic, and I think I'm guilty of taking in a lot of information and being short on the time to really unpack the impact of such strategies, and this is where I admire you – I don't perceive your responses in our community to be insufferably pessimistic. I really appreciate your thoughtfulness and counterbalance, and I respect the path you've very clearly walked to get to this position.
I have a question, it's okay if you don't want to answer it...does it feel like insufferable pessimism for you? Is that your lived experience when you sit with these posts, or is it more that you're concerned that might be the impact on the community?
Rhye ☘️
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26-05-2022 12:18 PM
26-05-2022 12:18 PM
Re: Chance To Participate In A Loneliness Survey
More like insufferable realism, @Rhye .
If I'm being fair with myself, "pessimism" implies a degree of distortion in one's thinking; imagining worst-case scenarios when it's unreasonable to presume things will play out as such. But I would say my concerns are very rational and fair, based off a balanced considderation of precedent, and the trajectories we are currantly on.
Yes, as you say, I am often concerned with the impact that my negativity might have upon the community. I know what it's like to be trapped with a perpetual misery-guts and it's not a good thing.
This is not who I wanted to be. I wanted to be a source of joy and delight in the world; I wanted to make others laugh and smile, not feel bad. The world needs people like that, but I'm too broken to step up and take on that role. I was pretty crap at it, even when I did have the spirit to give it my best shot.
Now it feels like I'm part of the problem, rather then part of the solution. The few good guys out there now have to clean up my mess, in addition to everyone else's, in order to make life an experiance worth enduring.
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26-05-2022 12:44 PM
26-05-2022 12:44 PM
Re: Chance To Participate In A Loneliness Survey
Hey @chibam just sent you an email, please look out for it 💛
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26-05-2022 02:07 PM
26-05-2022 02:07 PM
Re: Chance To Participate In A Loneliness Survey
Thank you for being candid and brave to share your thoughts @chibam. I can relate to what you said re. precendent and trajectories. So much of who we are is a result of where we came from, and in the case where those of us experienced significant trauma growing up and perhaps into early adulthood, that can really shape the lens through which we see the world.
I will admit, having that kind of background myself, it has taken me a lot to share and to trust, whether that be doctors, the "system" or even just people more broadly. They say one bitten twice shy, but when you're covered in scars it can feel unquantifiably "shy". What I've noticed, just my own experience here, is that trust develops with time and is earned, and since I've been willing to put myself out there, knowing I have the skills to weather most storms, I've been rewarded with support, friendship and opportunities for growth. This in turn has helped me build a sense of (old me can't believe I'm writing this...) optimism. That doesn't mean that I'm not occasionally cynical and/or jaded, I'm human, but what I have developed (through a relationship with an amazing therapist) is the space for hope, which I've found to be incredibly protective for ye olde depression too!
I would love you to be a source of joy and delight too, but for you first. You deserve that @chibam, you deserve to feel the hope I believe is possible, even when things can sometimes be cruel out there in the world 💛
If you don't mind me asking another question, I'm wondering what hope might look like for you?
Rhye ☘️
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26-05-2022 02:17 PM
26-05-2022 02:17 PM
Re: Chance To Participate In A Loneliness Survey
I have valued many of your contributions in the forums over a long time. Your posts do have a thought out realism about them that matters. Being positive or negative are simplistic dualistic reductions to the great range and subtle nuance of emotional life. To much positivity can really put me off ... lol ... keep being you.