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15 Feb 2025 12:36 AM
15 Feb 2025 12:36 AM
@avant-garde , when you did this ‘short dbt course’, did you have Individual and group therapy?
I’m a bit of a skeptic when it comes to These short dbt courses. The full blown course is designed to be 12-18 months with both individual and group therapy.
i personally feel the ‘short’ courses are watered down versions where they teach a few dbt skills.
As for whether you had, have or no longer have BPD, I think the main issue is, do you feel your symptoms are impacting your life?
15 Feb 2025 12:37 AM - edited 15 Feb 2025 12:44 AM
15 Feb 2025 12:37 AM - edited 15 Feb 2025 12:44 AM
I apologise @avant-garde @BPDSurvivor @rav3n @Glisten
This might sound self involved.
I was brought up in a very toxic environment with a step father who is properly diagnosed narcassistic
Mother borderline plus narcassistic.
Both negative people.
My step father tried hard to help me but gave up.
There was only aggression. Absolutely no empathy. For instance - My brother's were too damaged to even call me for over 15 years and offer love when my youngest son had cancer for over 15 years.
A diagnosis of bpd is fine. It was just my particular Mother with her upbringing, with her particular personality that made it so bad. However many many individuals have had it much worse than mine.
Bpd is about
In all this - there is another thread
@tyme who's chooses to work on herself
@tyme who studies
@tyme who embraces with love
@tyme who knows herself
@tyme who embraces vulnerable people and who is upfront.
Compare - my mum
Mum my mum who pushed me out of home many nights because her emotions weren't contained
Mum who doesn't know herself
Mum who is a professional victim
Mum who is still aggressive and purposely triangulates her children and enjoys disharmony
Mum who was told I might die from the head injury and tried for it to happen.
Mum who can only see black and white and lies to tear good people up.
A diagnosis is a diagnosis. But you can use it for good or bad.
I chose to enter therapy because i didn't want to be a mother who would turn out like my mum.
@tyme uses her diagnosis for good not to pull out the bad stuff.
My mum who is unaware bodily can only self reflect.
She doesn't care if I practically starved because of being a sole parent when my kids were young.
@tyme who works hard in her role as a sane moderator. I see how @tyme treats all us regulars with caring and loving notes about all of us individually so we stay cared for.
My Mum who researches my step mother who 52 years ago had an affair with my dad and cared and loved him and mum still researches her to spread bad stories about her.
Sorry I'm no good at writing differences in people with bpd @avant-garde but do you get the drift?
15 Feb 2025 12:39 AM - edited 15 Feb 2025 12:39 AM
15 Feb 2025 12:39 AM - edited 15 Feb 2025 12:39 AM
Another thing I forgot to say is that bpd can cause someone to feel quite up and down. @avant-garde
i curious as to whether you simply filled out the questionnaire/survey on a ‘good’ day and therefore the result was you front have BPD?
Do you have adhd? Sometimes the symptoms overlap
I don’t know. Just a thought.
15 Feb 2025 12:42 AM
15 Feb 2025 12:42 AM
I really like what you wrote @PeppyPatti . Makes a lot of Sense to me!
it should go in Raising Awareness of BPD - Flipping the Script
15 Feb 2025 12:50 AM
15 Feb 2025 12:50 AM
I may have been slightly wrong with the lengths, but I know I went through it once in 2012 and again in 2017, I just remember it being half the length of the full course.
It did have group and individual
I was never really told "symptoms" just know that I ticked the boxes and then didn't
15 Feb 2025 12:51 AM
15 Feb 2025 12:51 AM
Wow thanks @BPDSurvivor
How are you ?
I'm guessing that you've been around for a while ?
I stick to only a couple of threads.
Hope your having a nice day..... It's good to meet you.
Random information -
Ever since iv been seeing @Glisten s horses I'm daydreaming about eating peanut paste with carrots.......
15 Feb 2025 12:54 AM
15 Feb 2025 12:54 AM
15 Feb 2025 01:03 AM
15 Feb 2025 01:03 AM
I have trauma induced neurodivergency
Not ADHD because I am good at staying focused and getting things done
My former therapist said so.
I align to schedules
I like lists and spreadsheets
I over plan
I am brilliant at research
Certainly not ADHD
And yes I'm aware that I'm getting defensive
I just wanted to understand
15 Feb 2025 01:12 AM
15 Feb 2025 01:12 AM
Thankyou @tyme I'm so glad your in my life ......
15 Feb 2025 01:20 AM
15 Feb 2025 01:20 AM
Hi @avant-garde , sorry if you are feeling overwhelmed. Totally not my intention.
i get you want to understand. I guess we are just all different?
i don’t read your above post as being defensive. Sorry if you feel this way.
Please don’t think im saying you have adhd. I was only asking because i have adhd. What i find interesting though is that all the points you raised is exactly why I have ADHD:
- I align to schedules - my schedule is to the minute because if I don’t have a schedule, I feel lost
- I like lists and spreadsheets - if you see my desk and my phone, I have lists everywhere and I tabulate most things in tables and spread sheets
- I over plan - I plan things so much and get the smallest of details that others don’t see
- I am brilliant at research - I can think outside the box and think critically in research.
My psychologist aligned my traits with examples from now and when I was a kid with the DSM, and yes, I’ve been assessed for inattentive ADHD which means I can hyper focus on things I am interested in and do really well in life. But also, I struggle to filter out white noise and can really struggle in life.
Sorry for any confusion.
As mentioned, BPD can come in all sizes, shapes and forms. It’s ok to have it and it’s okay not to have it.
Maybe a psych can go through the criteria again with you if you are concerned?
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